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False Accusations Cast From Pulpit to
Discredit KFIRE
by Douglas Roy 10-19-10
The pulpit is a place
reserved for the preaching of truth and the wonderful gospel
of Jesus Christ, but this last Sunday, the 17th, at
Southland Christian, "bitter" water (James 3:8-18) came
forth from the mouth of Pastor Jon Weece as he berated
members who had posted facebook opposition to the previous
day's event that invited the Mexican Consulate to do
business on church property.
But the bitter talk did not
stop there. Weece went on to speak ill of the KFIRE
representatives that spoke with Pastor Hahn the previous
morning in the parking lot. The four observers were at bldg.
F to see and record the proceedings of the Mexican consulate
and the other booths set up for this event. They had not
been in there more than 2 minutes without tumult or disorder
before being accosted by a Latino security woman, a
Southland worker, and the police for trespassing at this
"public" event. The event was apparently open to all
Latinos, but evidently not to all white Americans (see
video 1 and
video 2 and
video 3). After being
escorted out of bldg. F by security guards/Nicholasville
police, and after a WTVQ 36 interview with Mr. Roy, Hahn
spoke with the KFIRE members and associates.
That small group included a
member of KY 912, along with KFIRE representatives, and
other concerned citizens. They spoke with Pastor Hahn
about the violation of the
Vienna Convention on Consular Affairs
to allow consular affairs to be conducted on non-dedicated
property (see Art. 1, j). They asked Pastor Hahn why he
refused to meet with them the week before the event (see the
conversation with Hahn
1:58min mark). His answer, "We're not interested in that..."
They also noted how it was wrong and harmful to Americans to
support the Mexican Government's issuing of
Matricula cards to illegal
aliens. Pastor Hahn disagreed with KFIRE's assessment,
deferring to his conversations with Homeland Security,
I.C.E., and the F.B.I. who assured him no law was being
broken. Someone noted, "would Southland set up an abortion
center on their property simply because it was legal?" The
moral implications of aiding illegal aliens, along with
actual law in
Title 8, Section 1324, is
sufficient reason to avoid implicating Southland in the
support of illegal and immoral activities.
Hahn disagreed, but then
asked the group, who just spent several minutes reprimanding
his actions, to pray with him (5:20min mark). The group was
not willing to pray a "phony prayer" with someone who was in
complete disagreement with them and justifying his sin.
Howbeit, Hahn evidently related a different story to Jon
Weece, who repeated this untruth from the pulpit,
purportedly spoken by a KFIRE member,
"We don't pray with people who
support Hispanic people." (note
my attitude regarding Hispanics here) I suggest you listen to the
conversation yourself and decide from the 5:20min mark on -
conversation with Hahn.
This was clearly an attempt to smear KFIRE as a racist
group.
But the
accusations didn't stop there. Weece then repeated another
untruth passed on from Pastor Charles Knox of I.N.V.
ministry. Knox is the man responsible for bringing the
Mexican Consulate to Southland for the second year and to 6
other locations in the surrounding area during the past 8
years. Pastor Weece alleged "the founder of KFIRE attended a
Hispanic event last year at a public park wearing an FBI
jacket and had his German Shepherd with him" allegedly to
intimidate Hispanics. A KFIRE member was at the park that
day and saw the man who actually wore an I.C.E. agent cap
and had a dog on a leash. She knew who the man was and He
was not the founder or even a member of KFIRE. This
second hand accusation from the pulpit seemed to bolster
Southland leadership's position as it cast aspersions on
"the founder of KFIRE" for hateful behavior and being a bad
Christian. Douglas Roy, current president and one of the
founders of KFIRE, who was at Southland on Saturday
protesting, apparently was the intended target of the
accusation. Roy was not present at the park that day in
question.
I thought you
should hear the other side of what really happened. One
would hope that public apologies and corrections are made by
these men of the cloth to attempt to undo the harm they have
done to the reputations of the falsely accused.
And now, the
rest of the story. After the WTVQ 36 news reporter left,
KFIRE members and supporters left the property and went to
the Harrodsburg Road, Hwy 68, entry to Southland. They were on
the public utility easement
with
protest signs when two Nicholasville police
cruisers and an unmarked security car drove up to them
demanding that they remove themselves with their signs from
the Southland property. These were the same rent-a-cops that
escorted the group out of the building. The protesters were
forced onto the shoulder of the busy highway and made to
walk, being told they couldn't legally stand there.
They made
there way to Brannon Road and then to the other Southland
entry off that road. Again, the same two Nicholasville
police officers came to ask them to leave the property. The
group of three were already standing on the public street by
the entry, but were told they must move to the other side of
the road or face further consequences.
Watch the video yourself
and see what you think. These officers/security guards, by
their own admission, were following orders from Southland.
Christian love did not extend to Southland leadership's
perceived enemies, that is clear. |
Protest of the Mexican Consulate
10-16-10
This
morning a small group of KFIRE supporters went to the largest
church in central Kentucky, Southland Christian Church. We
were there to witness and protest the use of church property by
the Mexican Consulate out of Indianapolis. We entered the
building peaceably, and were quietly taking video and pictures
of the nearly 150 or 200 Latinos present, when, in only a minute
or two, a police officer came up to us and began to question us
as to our motivation for being there.
Raw video of the first
encounter with the police/security http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGJf7SwltBQ
Short video, mostly sound, excuses given for
no video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18h0I9nPhzo
See the police/security guards harassing us
here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaNgbQIMDmA
The video below is KFIRE folks talking with
Pastor Hahn of Southland. You can see and hear the entire
conversation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRapTJ0Uqu8
Part one of interview with WTVQ36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw4Q2fH9Crs
Part two of interview with WTVQ36 - "It's not
about race...it's about legality!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbsX9M6SSu8
NEW 10-30-10
We
have this much more video that we are posting as soon as it
is processed.
We had
spoken to both pastors (Hahn and Knox) involved with the day's
"Latino Health Fair/Mexican Consulate" only 45 minutes prior to
this in a very cordial manner. Those conversations were also
recorded and will be posted soon. They were obviously upset that
we were giving them bad publicity. They should have thought more
about that as these two "security guards" continued to harass us
near the entrance while Channel 36 News was videotaping the
moment. None of that tape made it to the news or the internet.
Mine will and has.
Pics
from the event!
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